Posts by label licker

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Midday Vent

by mrhhome in

jw
friends

i know that this is a statement of the obvious, but i am wasting my time trying to have an honest discussion with my in-law witnesses.. it is absolutely amazing.

they are otherwise intelligent, rational, honest people.

however if you get remotely close to a subject that requires that they evaluate their beliefs or challenge the witness policy, they will repeatedly dodge it, twist it, or otherwise ignore it.

My sister is seventy years old and gave her whole life to the org.(pioneered and special pioneered since she was sixteen). She could always see through the faults of the elders and not link their hypocracy and favortism to the cult's doctrinal training. I tried dropping a few little bombs her way and the first time she said I was shaking her faith and hung up. She wouldn't answer her phone for almost eight months.

Recently, I told her to show me where it reads new scrolls. I told her about all the new changes and the one about tithing. I could read her the first page and then she didn't want to hear anything negative anymore. What was negative was the letter that I was reading her and it offended her but somehow she linked the negativity back to the one that was reading it which was me. I never run down the org for then she would take it as though I was insulting her. I told her it wasn't negative what I was reading but just the four page letter from the society . I could only read the second page and she made me stop. A month later she asked me if I could send her all the governing body letters that I have been reading and if I could send her all the society's publications from when they started to now. I did. She sent me a message saying thank you for your hard work of researching but I don't think I will pursue this any further. I'm hoping she is reading them all. I even sent her the elders manual.

This is a gal who never got married and lives alone on welfare assistance. She lives on six hundred dollars per month. She has no one. She already told me that she knows my husband is a good man but she has to follow theocratic procedure. (He's df'd) This just breaks my heart how she will let me go so far in helping her like sending her money to help her out and information on this cult but then runs and hides. Her health is really poor but refuses to come and let us look after her.

I really do feel for you and I get it. Our hands are tied for the moment.

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CONGREGATION FLEECING RESULTS?

by The Searcher in

how much did your congregation and its bank account get taken for?

share your horror story!.

label licker

$500.00 per month "and we should be happy at that amount since we were sending in $800.00 per month before this new loving arrangement kicked in" as it was mentioned from the platform. Also, ten thousand was taken out of the account and a loan of fifteen thousand. A total of twenty-five thousand which was to be donated to a new hall build which that hall announced they didn't need so the congregation doesn't know where it ended up an no one seems to ask or is too afraid to ask where their money went

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Society money grab tonight

by Red Piller in

wow.

you read about it here.

but, it still doesn't prepare you.. our hall passed a resolution to give about 15,000 to the wt.

label licker

Our last hall has to pay a total of five hundred per month. Ten thousand was handed over along with a recent loan that was borrowed from society of fifteen thousand dollars. All that money was supposedly donated to another hall. That hall was sold and a new one built. Afterwards a talk was given stating that they didn't need our donation of twenty-five thousand dollars but since then there has been no mention as to what happened to that money. (In a previous post the amount was thought to be twenty-one thousand but it is twenty-five thousand)

When the brother made the announcement of the congregation only having to pay five hundred per month, he added that they can be happy at that amount since they were paying eight hundred dollars per month to pay the loan off. People aren't buying it. The few that still talk to us are not donating. Still, people aren't getting the fact that even though they don't have to pay off a loan, they are indebted indefinitely.

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It is so obviously a lie......now

by snare&racket in

once the spell is broken, one you take a deep fresh breath outisde of the watchtower camp, the amazingly obvious realisation becomes clear.... of course this is a lie, of course this is ridiculous!

you find you have memories of really believing the claims and promises, but it seems like another life, another experience.

it seems so incredibly false once you leave and it is very difficult to belive you even once accepted it!

label licker

How true! About the gambling, it took me no more than fifteen minutes to win $2,400.00 and I was hooked. It was hard to leave the building once the gambling fever had set in. I swore to myself that was my first and last time I would go into a casino. Wish it would have been that easy to do the same with the cult but every time a new and improved reward was thrown at us, we would stay for another round. That watchtower wheel never stopped spinning out new and improved winnings/losts.

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NEW DONATION ARRANGEMENT - FOR ME!!

by The Searcher in

to my congregation:.

dear brethern & sistern, i wish to inform you of a new method which i have devised to provide me with all my material needs for the future.my previous method was ok, pretty lucrative in fact, but this one hits the jackpot!what i propose is this: rather than you giving me monetary gifts when you are able, i want you to pledge, in writing, exactly how much you are willing to give me each month.

that way, your christian conscience will compel you to cough up, regardless of your own financial needs for that month!now the really good bit - calculate how much money your basic household needs are for a month, and multiply that amount by three.

label licker

Sure. Give us your address and we'll start sending you the cheques:)

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"Keep Seeking First God's Kingdom! Regional Convention 2014 - releases and info

by OwnAccord in

info from someone at the regional convention:.

(sorry about the format).

matthew 6:33 keep on seeking first the kingdom.

label licker

Google Kingdom in the third heavens and you will understand who the society is now following. Yep, looks like they are trying to keep up with the Mormons according to wikipedia.

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Do you think it will be easier or harder to be appointed elder under the new arrangment?

by toto555 in

will it be easier or harder to be made an elder without all the nepotism and favortism under the new 'co appointing elder arrangment'?

what are your thoughts?

how do you think this arrangement is going to work?

label licker

The two young elders that were just elected this year both have decent jobs. One is a millrite and the other was in paralegal. All the elders on this body all have their own businesses and do well. I just hope the congregation is short each month so the money comes out of the elders pockets to pay up. In a way, the society has now turned the tables on the elders so if some are not well liked, this is the best way to get back at them. Not only are they not protected legally but there's a risk of losing some money if their hall is short. One can only hope it happens this way. Maybe that's why society is culling their herds. Get rid of the weak, faders and troublemakers so this doesn't happen. Too bad for their shunning program for the families who are in won't appreciate their loved ones getting the boot over nothing. Hopfully this will come back and bite them in the ass. Wouldn't want to be an elder for a million dollars.

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Can we be deleted as an appointed man, or disfellowshipped without meeting in a committee?

by stuckinarut2 in

so, i am genuinely wondering if the above is possible nowdays?.

with the changes in the power structure of co's, the changes in gb directives re never questioning "jehovah's appointed channel etc", i wonder if "disciplne can be given out in absence?.

i know that several elders in our cong have little "discussions" about my apparant slackening off, and would love to take action against me... they have tried to chat with me but that has been shot down.. so i wonder if they could just make a decision without me being present for it?

label licker

Just wave bye bye as your walking away from them and five hours later you will get a phone call telling the wife your husband has been df'd. Ok, so he called them babylon the great and that they were the whores. No need to be nasty to my hubby:) True story!

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Do you think the nepotism and favoritism will stop with the appointing of elders with the new arrangement?

by toto555 in

do you think this is a fairer system and brothers who have never gotten a chance at being elder will finally get it since it's up to the co to decide?

how do you think that's going to work?

do you think the favoritism will go away or be marginalized?.

label licker

It's going to be the ones who have the money be picked for elders. When they don't meet their monthly tithe, then they need elders who have money to cough up the rest. These dimwits will pay their way to the top ( so they think) just to find out the society will be waiting with their loot bags to catch their hall's money that is oweing. Live entertainment at your best.

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Yoga

by FL_Panthers in

one elder in my cong told me that this is a df offense?

is this true?

can yoga be practised?.

label licker

A few years back we had a local needs on being careful to research the background on things like yoga. When they said the word things I thought there was more to it than just yoga but the whole talk was on yoga. Afterwards I spoke to the elder who gave the talk and said I have ten tapes on yoga. How can there be anything wrong with it when all it does is put you in shape physically and mentally relax you to start your hectic day. He said to be careful that it doesn't go beyond the physical aspect and not touch into the mental aspect. He said some get you to focus on things like spiritisim while you are working out and that the ones doing the teaching are into spiritistic worship. That satan is very decieving.

Sheesh! I should have put a turban on and wear my push up sports bra under my see through blouse to the meeting like some who have the custom of doing.(Like the elders wives for instance)